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#1 FourthStooge

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Posted October 03 2013, 07:03 PM

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The inevitable now is official: Josh Freeman has been released by the Tampa Bay Buccaneers.

 

NFL Media Insider Ian Rapoport reports the Bucs released their erstwhile starting quarterback Thursday. According to Rapoport, the Bucs called the other 31 teams in an effort to trade Freeman. Finding no takers, the team moved on.

 

The Bucs will be on the hook for the balance of Freeman's 2013 salary, which is $5.95 million, according to Rapoport.

 

ESPN's Adam Schefter was first to report Freeman's release.

 

"We made the decision today to release Josh Freeman," general manager Mark Dominik said Thursday in a statement. "We appreciate his efforts over the past five seasons, but we felt this was in the best interests of both Josh and the Buccaneers."

 

Rapoport also reported that the Bucs would've taken on Freeman's salary in a trade, but the team was nervous Freeman's representation would've tried to dictate a trade with a restructured contract, per a team source. The source also said the Bucs considered suspending Freeman and trying to fight for his salary, but, in the end, the team's brass deemed it wasn't worth the fight.

 

Freeman's departure ends an ugly -- and embarrassing -- chapter in team history. The Bucs moved on from Freeman last week, installing third-round draft pick Mike Glennon as their starter. After a week of acrimony, the Bucs finally cut the cord on their former first-round pick and one-time franchise centerpiece.

Though Freeman's struggles on the field served as the catalyst for his exit from Tampa, he will find work in the NFL. The question is which team will bite and how soon.

 

One option is the Oakland Raiders. The team is unsettled at the quarterback position, and Freeman has a direct connection to offensive coordinator Greg Olson, who was Freeman's former coordinator with the Bucs.

 

Freeman also has ties to Alex Van Pelt, who currently is the Green Bay Packers' running backs coach and formerly was Freeman's quarterbacks coach with the Bucs. Van Pelt said in 2010 that there was no quarterback in football he would trade if it meant giving up Freeman.

 

There will be no shortage of potential suitors looking to bring in a talented quarterback who has lost his way.



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Posted October 04 2013, 08:41 AM

This was worthy of being posted in the main NFL forum.  What has happened to this guy?


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Posted October 04 2013, 08:57 AM

Well, I am not sure Freeman was all that good (or even mediocre) to start with.  I think he showed some promise and could have been developed into a passable QB.  Who knows, maybe he still will somewhere or become a decent backup.

 

I don't think there has been any offensive development under Schiano.  My guess is somewhere down the line either he, the GM, or both will be sent packing.  It is pretty obvious the two can not coexist.  But Schiano is an idiot, and that seems to be the impression their fans have largely come to, too.  Not that management does what the fans want, but it shows to me that my conclusion is at least shared by people forced to watch them every week.



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Posted October 04 2013, 11:45 AM

With their record at 3-2 and their head coach's success with another big, mobile QB in Carolina.  I REALLY think the Browns should inquire about Freeman. 



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Posted October 04 2013, 01:04 PM

With their record at 3-2 and their head coach's success with another big, mobile QB in Carolina.  I REALLY think the Browns should inquire about Freeman. 

 

I have not heard what Hoyer's status is after last night's injury, but yep.  I think whatever potential Freeman has is still unknown.  He's probably not far enough down the path to oblivion yet that he is ruined.  But he is on the path unless somebody who is not a witch doctor gets a hold of him.

 

On the other hand, he could just suck.  But so do his now ex-coaches, so I'm not sure how we would know the difference.  He is probably worth the gamble for somebody.  At the very least, he knows the pointed ends of the football are supposed to go forward, so he'd be worth a shot as a backup.



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Posted October 04 2013, 01:24 PM

 

I have not heard what Hoyer's status is after last night's injury, but yep.  I think whatever potential Freeman has is still unknown.  He's probably not far enough down the path to oblivion yet that he is ruined.  But he is on the path unless somebody who is not a witch doctor gets a hold of him.

 

On the other hand, he could just suck.  But so do his now ex-coaches, so I'm not sure how we would know the difference.  He is probably worth the gamble for somebody.  At the very least, he knows the pointed ends of the football are supposed to go forward, so he'd be worth a shot as a backup.

Hoyer tore his ACL and is done for the year. 



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Posted October 04 2013, 02:04 PM

And whoever leaked that Freeman was in the first stage of the drug treatment program can go get fucked in the mouth with a chainsaw penis. Not saying it was Schiano, but, given what we've seen of his work so far, I would not be surprised. 




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Posted October 04 2013, 02:11 PM

And whoever leaked that Freeman was in the first stage of the drug treatment program can go get fucked in the mouth with a chainsaw penis. Not saying it was Schiano, but, given what we've seen of his work so far, I would not be surprised. 

Yeah, Schiano isn't building himself a nice resume, even to go back to college at some point.



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Posted October 04 2013, 02:18 PM

And whoever leaked that Freeman was in the first stage of the drug treatment program can go get fucked in the mouth with a chainsaw penis. Not saying it was Schiano, but, given what we've seen of his work so far, I would not be surprised. 

Seriously, it wasn't enough to bench him and then eventually cut him. What a DOUCHE. (I will probably never stop loving Josh Freeman, but I feel that way about like ALL the K-state alum).



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Posted October 04 2013, 02:26 PM

Yeah, Schiano isn't building himself a nice resume, even to go back to college at some point.

 

I am sure at some point some college will be cool with his authoritarian Captain Douchebag routine if it means they'll go to a bowl or something. Nick Saban learned this lesson quickly. 




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Posted October 04 2013, 02:30 PM

 

I am sure at some point some college will be cool with his authoritarian Captain Douchebag routine if it means they'll go to a bowl or something. Nick Saban learned this lesson quickly. 

I don't know.  I'm sure winning trumps all, but has Schiano really won enough at the NCAA level to warrant that type of equity?  He is NO WHERE CLOSE to Saban in terms of resume.  I think a better comparison would be that former coach of Texas Tech who locks players in closets.  What was his name?  And where does he coach now?



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Posted October 04 2013, 03:32 PM

I don't know.  I'm sure winning trumps all, but has Schiano really won enough at the NCAA level to warrant that type of equity?  He is NO WHERE CLOSE to Saban in terms of resume.  I think a better comparison would be that former coach of Texas Tech who locks players in closets.  What was his name?  And where does he coach now?

 

I am not saying he's the same level of coach. I am just saying that the Saban/Schiano/Mike Leach (who's playing pretend pirate at Washington State these days) kind of assholitry is tolerated much more in the college level than in the pros. 




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Posted October 04 2013, 08:16 PM

 

I am not saying he's the same level of coach. I am just saying that the Saban/Schiano/Mike Leach (who's playing pretend pirate at Washington State these days) kind of assholitry is tolerated much more in the college level than in the pros. 

 

But tell me, Geto, what do you really think about Schiano?  :rl:

 

Sounds like our opinion of the guy is about the same.  I'm pretty convinced if he was not the coach of the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, he'd be the assistant night manager at a Waffle House.  You know, the guy with the mop.



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Posted October 04 2013, 09:25 PM

I don't know.  I'm sure winning trumps all, but has Schiano really won enough at the NCAA level to warrant that type of equity?  He is NO WHERE CLOSE to Saban in terms of resume.  I think a better comparison would be that former coach of Texas Tech who locks players in closets.  What was his name?  And where does he coach now?

Yeah, Rutgers was decent when he was there but nothing amazing, and the years they were good was when they had Ray Rice, Kenny Britt, and Devin McCourty


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Posted October 04 2013, 09:28 PM

Yeah, Rutgers was decent when he was there but nothing amazing, and the years they were good was when they had Ray Rice, Kenny Britt, and Devin McCourty

Actually, I looked it up, Schiano was one game over .500 his tenure at Rutgers.


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