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Montana vs Manning: who's the 2nd greatest of all time?


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#241 GetoThunderFist

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Posted August 07 2017, 02:42 PM

Sorry, I don't visit this site too much anymore, and it's clear not anybody really does.

 

Regardless, Brady is the G

 

Understood. But the backdoor snark is just lame. 




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#242 ward8668

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Posted August 07 2017, 05:13 PM

 

Understood. But the backdoor snark is just lame. 

Sounds a bit ghey - just saying...


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Posted August 08 2017, 08:38 AM

Sounds a bit ghey - just saying...

 

Yeah, I agree as it is being bantered by Geto and PP.  Although, I'm pretty sure I might have thrown out a similar quote to my wife within the past week.  :shifty:



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Posted August 08 2017, 11:35 AM

Yeah...this is all just sexual tension. Never mind us. 




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Posted August 20 2017, 05:49 AM

I think if you look at resumes, that Brady has the greatness resume of any NFL QB of the modern era.  If you go back and look, Otto Graham is on par with Brady, but most NFL fans don't acknowledge the sport pre-Super Bowl era.  However, if you go be the eyeball test, Montana and Brady is a valid debate.  It's like Dan Marino, who some will say is NOT in the top 5 of all time because of his post season resume, but anyone who watched him play knows that he belongs in that group. 

 

Thanks for mentioning my man Otto!  That said, Marino isn't top five of all time.  I think he was awesome, but he had some leadership flaws that came to light when the going got tough. I still think Montana has the greatest resume if you factor in the eras, and yes, there's a massive difference in the Brady Era and the Montana Era.  




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Posted August 21 2017, 11:01 AM

 

Thanks for mentioning my man Otto!  That said, Marino isn't top five of all time.  I think he was awesome, but he had some leadership flaws that came to light when the going got tough. I still think Montana has the greatest resume if you factor in the eras, and yes, there's a massive difference in the Brady Era and the Montana Era.  

I guess, if you are defining QBs and their overall game.  So, I will re-phrase.  Marino is definitely a top 5 in terms of his ability to throw the football, plus, he wasn't a turnover machine like Favre.  But, I will ding him for how he handled team mates.  Guy could be a dick, by all accounts. 



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Posted August 21 2017, 01:26 PM

I think at least some of that is defined by circumstance though.

You can certainly counter with an argument in the realm of "you make your own karma" or whatever and say that with better attitude perhaps Marino would have won some championships...

but on the other side, if you take a more transcendental view of it: the few times the chips have been down for the Pats during Brady's tenure, I have seen some of that same dickishness out of him. It makes me wonder how well his famous poise would have held up had he been drafted by say...the Lions. And languished there a bit minus the rings and top notch supermodel pussy.

Likewise, would Marino have been a bit more relaxed if they'd instead drawn the Bears in 84 and won it all then?

Hard to say, but I just think you risk double dinging/over praising someone if you put too much weight on personality based intangibles like that. No one likes to lose and after a time it has to wear on even the nicest folks...and conversely...the biggest asshole on the planet can smile when hoisting a Lombardi.




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