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#1 Sideshow91

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Posted March 08 2017, 12:35 PM

Of  all the super bowls, which teams would you considered had the biggest choke job?  Your criteria could be anything, either blowing a lead, losing as a big favorite coming in, general play calling and performance based on their potential.  Your call.



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Posted March 08 2017, 03:10 PM

Chronologically, I think this is my list:

1968 Baltimore Colts (lost to NY Jets)

1969 Minnesota Vikings (lost to the KC Chiefs)

1970 Dallas Cowboys (lost to the Baltimore Colts)

1976 Minnesota Vikings (failed to show up against the Oakland Raiders)

1980 Philadelphia Eagles (blown out by the Oakland Raiders)

1983 Washington Redskins (failed to show up against the Oakland Raiders)

1987 Denver Broncos (lost to Washington, gave up 35 points in the 2nd quarter)

1991-93 Buffalo Bills (lost to Washington and Dallas twice and looked bad in each game)

2001 NY Giants (blown out by Baltimore)

2002 Oakland Raiders (blown out by Tampa)

2007 NE Patriots (18-0 and then impotent on offense)

2013 Denver Broncos (out of the game vs. Seattle from the first snap)

2016 Atlanta Falcons (blew the 25-point third quarter lead against New England)

 

In some cases, the team that I think choked was not even expected to win, but they didn't bother to show up for the game. 

 

If I had to rank them, I think my top five would be:

2016 Atlanta Falcons (hard to not call getting outscored 31-0 in the final 25 or so minutes not the biggest)

1983 Washington Redskins (The Raiders may have been better, but not 38-9 better)

2013 Denver Broncos (Like I said, the carnage started from the first snap.  This team should not have lost 43-8)

1992 Buffalo Bills (52-17, giving up 21 in the 4th quarter when the game might have still be in question)

(T)1976 Minnesota Vikings and 2002 Oakland Raiders (Neither team was in the game after the first quarter, and neither should have lost by the magnitudes they did)



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Posted March 08 2017, 03:28 PM

You might want to add the Rams team in between the Giants and Raiders chokes. I think the Colts lost Super Bowl III favored by more than the Rams were when they lost to the Pats but I think that spread in 1969 was in large part due to some well earned Anti AFL bias. And I have never seen a better textbook example of a far more talented team crumbling for most of the game after getting punched in the mouth by the less talented team. 

 

Also, really glad you mentioned those 1983 Redskins. That was a juggernaut up until the wheels fell completely off in the Super Bowl. That Squirek gimme pick 6 still is one of the biggest WTF plays in Super Bowl history. 




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Posted March 08 2017, 03:57 PM

You might want to add the Rams team in between the Giants and Raiders chokes. I think the Colts lost Super Bowl III favored by more than the Rams were when they lost to the Pats but I think that spread in 1969 was in large part due to some well earned Anti AFL bias. And I have never seen a better textbook example of a far more talented team crumbling for most of the game after getting punched in the mouth by the less talented team. 

 

Also, really glad you mentioned those 1983 Redskins. That was a juggernaut up until the wheels fell completely off in the Super Bowl. That Squirek gimme pick 6 still is one of the biggest WTF plays in Super Bowl history. 

 

Thanks, Geto.  The Rams deserve to be in there.

 

I have always held the Squirek pick 6 as the worst interception in Super Bowl history.  It was a bad decision, a weak throw, and essentially ended the game before halftime.  It is the gold standard of Super Bowl interceptions.



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Posted March 08 2017, 06:12 PM

 

Thanks, Geto.  The Rams deserve to be in there.

 

I have always held the Squirek pick 6 as the worst interception in Super Bowl history.  It was a bad decision, a weak throw, and essentially ended the game before halftime.  It is the gold standard of Super Bowl interceptions.

Meh, there were more.  Neil O'Donell threw two of the worst in SB history vs. Dallas.  And you can't leave out James Harrison's goal line pick on the last play of the first half and returning it to the house against Kurt Warner and the Cardinals.  Talk about a change of momentum!  That play was crazy.

 

Seattle not scoring on NE to win the game from inside the 5 has to be up there as a major choke job.


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Posted March 08 2017, 06:54 PM

Meh, there were more.  Neil O'Donell threw two of the worst in SB history vs. Dallas.  And you can't leave out James Harrison's goal line pick on the last play of the first half and returning it to the house against Kurt Warner and the Cardinals.  Talk about a change of momentum!  That play was crazy.

 

Seattle not scoring on NE to win the game from inside the 5 has to be up there as a major choke job.

 

I don't think any of those was as poorly conceived a play, poorly read by the QB, lackadaisically as thrown, in as meaningless a situation (at the end of the half, deep in their own territory), AND effectively ended the game that early.  QBs make mistakes, sometimes in crucial situations.  Take away Theismann's gold standard and Brady's pick six this year is right among the leading contenders even thought they managed to come back.

 

I think the two biggest chokes down the stretch were Seattle getting cute at the expense of getting the points in the final :30 and Atlanta going from fairly easy FG range that would have extended the lead to two scores with less than 4:00 to go to punting to set up the NE's tying score.

 

My shoe would still be in Shanahan's and Bevell's arses over those.



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Posted March 08 2017, 07:02 PM

 

I don't think any of those was as poorly conceived a play, poorly read by the QB, lackadaisically as thrown, in as meaningless a situation (at the end of the half, deep in their own territory), AND effectively ended the game that early.  QBs make mistakes, sometimes in crucial situations.  Take away Theismann's gold standard and Brady's pick six this year is right among the leading contenders even thought they managed to come back.

 

I think the two biggest chokes down the stretch were Seattle getting cute at the expense of getting the points in the final :30 and Atlanta going from fairly easy FG range that would have extended the lead to two scores with less than 4:00 to go to punting to set up the NE's tying score.

 

My shoe would still be in Shanahan's and Bevell's arses over those.

I don't get your comment about the O'Donnell and Kurt Warner picks being meaningless in their own territory.  For O'Donnell, both came at a point when the Steelers were on the verge of either getting back in the game or taking the lead.  The Warner pick at the end of the half was on the Steelers goal line that would have given AZ massive momentum going into the half.  The fact that Harrison had to score for that play to be worth points because the clock ran out on the runback was huge.


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Posted March 09 2017, 09:17 AM

The Colts loss to the Jets

The Redskins loss to the Raiders

The Rams loss to the Pats

The Pats loss to the Giants (1st time)

 

Those games came to mind as teams that were heavy favorites coming into a game and lost.  But in all those games, I have to give the victors more credit for their performances then say they were total choke jobs by the losers. 

 

Individually, I think about:

 

Dallas Cowboy's TE Jackie Smith dropping a go ahead TD in SB 13

Neil O'Donnell's int to Larry Brown (although it should be noted that there was a back up WR who didn't run the hot route that he was supposed to)

Peyton Manning's int in SB XLIV that sealed the deal for the Saints.

Donovan McNabb's throwing up on himself against the Pats in the 4th quarter trying to lead the Eagles back

 

But, I would have to say, the two biggest choke jobs I've seen have both occurred in 2 of the last 3 SBs, with Butler's last second int against the Seahawks, and the Falcons piss poor clock management and play calling that opened the door for the Pats to pull out the win.



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Posted March 09 2017, 09:44 AM

I don't get your comment about the O'Donnell and Kurt Warner picks being meaningless in their own territory.  For O'Donnell, both came at a point when the Steelers were on the verge of either getting back in the game or taking the lead.  The Warner pick at the end of the half was on the Steelers goal line that would have given AZ massive momentum going into the half.  The fact that Harrison had to score for that play to be worth points because the clock ran out on the runback was huge.

 

 

Ward, I did not say anywhere that those were not big interceptions.  That said, I am also not surprised your focus is Steeler-centric because you bleed black and gold.

 

First, as far as chokes, let’s look at the three games in question going in:

Washington +3 over Raiders

Steelers +7 over Cards

Cowboys +13-1/2 over Steelers

 

So, Washington, a slight favorite, has limped through the first half and is down 14-3 to the Raiders.  Bad situation but not unrecoverable, especially since the Foreskins get the ball to start the second half.  Nothing has gone right, they are backed up on their own 12, there is :12 left in the half, and all they have to do is get off the field and regroup because nothing good is going to happen in that situation.  Instead, they call a stupid play that will do nothing other than maybe pad the stats, and Theismann just lofts a screen pass up that anybody on this board would have intercepted  and run in from about the 5.  Game over.  Yes, they scored to open the second half, but it only cut the lead back to about where it was when they should have run out the clock (they missed the PAT).  Bad decision, absolute failure to read the defense, bad throw and it ended a game they were supposed to win, or at worst, at least be competitive. 

 

The Warner pick was like the Russell Wilson interception, except I don’t think the play call was nearly as dubious.  Both are on the goal line, both short passes, but the Cards play was an out, not an in or slant into the teeth of a goal line defense.  Harrison made a great read, it was a timing play so Warner simply did not read it, and Harrison made a great return (with some help by his friends).  Turning point? Yes.  Choke? Hardly.  The right defense called against the play, a good defensive read, the throw was not a floater like Theismann’s, and the return was 100 yards, not 5. 

 

Incidentally, the only blame I give Wilson for his pick at the goal line was not checking off Bevell’s lousy play call.

 

O’Donnell mad a couple of horrible throws.  But he was not Joe Montana, which is part of the reason the Steelers were 13-1/2 point underdogs.  He was, at best, a mediocre QB whose primary job was to not lose games.  He/they got impatient, and the result was not a surprise.  What keeps this from being one of the biggest choke jobs is 1) he did not throw away a lead, they were coming from behind all game that put him in a situation he was not going to succeed in, and 2) Even with that, the Steelers were far more competitive in this game than everyone expected.  Honestly, O’Donnell aside they were probably pretty equal to the Cowboys by the time the dust settled.  But they walked in with O’Donnell as their QB, it is not like Tom Brady suddenly morphed into Neil O’Donnell.  There is an old saying, when you invite an alligator to dinner, you can’t get upset when it acts like an alligator.  .  Once the Cowboys got ahead and the Steelers decided to “go for it” instead of being a little more patient (and I know it was getting late), O’Donnell became that alligator.  But, in fairness, betting $2 on that in Vegas would have maybe won you $2.25 back.

 

While I have always thought Theismann was one of the most overrated QBs in history (which I think his career stats bear out, he looks generally like #3 of 3 in this discussion), for the seasons in question he is the best of the three QBs.  Highest QBR, best TD-Int ratio, and a good YPG average against the other two considering it was 1983.  He had a career year, right up until the Super Bowl when he played like Joe Theismann.  He always had a problem with interceptions, which did not surface in 1983 until……



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Posted March 09 2017, 09:54 AM

The Colts loss to the Jets

The Redskins loss to the Raiders

The Rams loss to the Pats

The Pats loss to the Giants (1st time)

 

Those games came to mind as teams that were heavy favorites coming into a game and lost.  But in all those games, I have to give the victors more credit for their performances then say they were total choke jobs by the losers. 

 

Individually, I think about:

 

Dallas Cowboy's TE Jackie Smith dropping a go ahead TD in SB 13

Neil O'Donnell's int to Larry Brown (although it should be noted that there was a back up WR who didn't run the hot route that he was supposed to)

Peyton Manning's int in SB XLIV that sealed the deal for the Saints.

Donovan McNabb's throwing up on himself against the Pats in the 4th quarter trying to lead the Eagles back

 

But, I would have to say, the two biggest choke jobs I've seen have both occurred in 2 of the last 3 SBs, with Butler's last second int against the Seahawks, and the Falcons piss poor clock management and play calling that opened the door for the Pats to pull out the win.

 

I think the Jets, Raiders, Pats, and Giants all had great game plans in those games.  Of course, great game plans are only part of the equation, they then had to execute them and they did. 

 

My focus on the Raiders vs. Redskins was sheer magnitude of the domination.  The only time the Redskins looked like they were expected to look was in their opening drive of the second half.  The rest of the time, they were beaten every way it is possible for a football team to be beaten.

 

It is not so much a choke, but what I see in the Atlanta and Seattle losses to the Pats is OCs who outsmarted themselves.  In their respective situations, all they had to do was "get the points that were on the table."  They both wanted more, in Seattle's case apparently to score on the game's final play and in Atlanta's case, to get even more points when any would have made it a two-possession game.  Honestly, it makes me wonder whether I, as a HC, would tell my OC going into the Super Bowl, "you can call the plays for the first 50 or 55 minutes, then I'll do it."



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Posted March 09 2017, 10:52 AM

Seattle managed the clock badly at the end of SB49, no doubt. And I think they wanted to use a pass play that percentages dictated would almost certainly end in an incompletion or a touchdown (they had run that slant with something like a 90% success rate during the regular season). So I think I understand why they chose that play in a vacuum... it was a high percentage play that would result in a score or a stopped clock, so they could run the ball twice afterward and use the final TO for clock management.

 

That being said, I don't think they ever ran that play against a defense with an ex-LOB member who knew the play from seeing it in practice all the damn time. I don't think it was the OC being cute, necessarily. I think it was a rational decision that was made without considering all the factors, and the execution being poor led the result we got.

 

In the end, I'm so glad for Atlanta's loss this last SB... it'll take at least some of the sting away for Seahawks fans.


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Posted March 09 2017, 01:24 PM

I dont think Baltimore-NY qualifies as a choke Stooge.

This is a very subjective discussion obviously and has to do with whether a team that won either by a wider margin than expected or won at all as an underdog just pulled a fast one...and the other team didnt show up..or if one (or both) team(s) weren't who we thoght they were.

I for one called that game to be the first SB shutout (damn special teams ruint an otherwise awesome call by me)...and though baltimore scored a bit more than I expected i dont think a 4 score win where you only expected/endorsed/believed in/however the hell you want to frame it a 2.5-3 score win implies choke on the Giants part.

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Posted March 09 2017, 01:37 PM

I dont think Baltimore-NY qualifies as a choke Stooge.

This is a very subjective discussion obviously and has to do with whether a team that won either by a wider margin than expected or won at all as an underdog just pulled a fast one...and the other team didnt show up..or if one (or both) team(s) weren't who we thoght they were.

I for one called that game to be the first SB shutout (damn special teams ruint an otherwise awesome call by me)...and though baltimore scored a bit more than I expected i dont think a 4 score win where you only expected/endorsed/believed in/however the hell you want to frame it a 2.5-3 score win implies choke on the Giants part.

 

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The Giants were an overmatched team that day. New York might have finished 12-4, but their SOS was abysmal (2nd easiest schedule in the league) and they weren't a better offense than Baltimore, finishing with only 5 more points scored than the Ravens over the course of the year. And while their D was their calling card that year, they allowed almost 100 more points over the course of the season than the Ravens. It was a average O, good D versus an average O, all-time great D.


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Posted March 09 2017, 02:59 PM

I dont think Baltimore-NY qualifies as a choke Stooge.

This is a very subjective discussion obviously and has to do with whether a team that won either by a wider margin than expected or won at all as an underdog just pulled a fast one...and the other team didnt show up..or if one (or both) team(s) weren't who we thoght they were.

I for one called that game to be the first SB shutout (damn special teams ruint an otherwise awesome call by me)...and though baltimore scored a bit more than I expected i dont think a 4 score win where you only expected/endorsed/believed in/however the hell you want to frame it a 2.5-3 score win implies choke on the Giants part.

 

It may be on the edge.  I really put them there more for their defensive performance than the fact that their offense rolled a big goose egg.  The Giants secondary made Trent Dilfer look like some Montana-Staubach hybrid in that game.  Had the score been 20-0 or some such thing, I would not have thought twice about it.  Of course, my view may be shaped a bit by the third quarter special teams tirade both teams went on.



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Posted March 09 2017, 10:37 PM

 

 

Ward, I did not say anywhere that those were not big interceptions.  That said, I am also not surprised your focus is Steeler-centric because you bleed black and gold.

 

First, as far as chokes, let’s look at the three games in question going in:

Washington +3 over Raiders

Steelers +7 over Cards

Cowboys +13-1/2 over Steelers

 

So, Washington, a slight favorite, has limped through the first half and is down 14-3 to the Raiders.  Bad situation but not unrecoverable, especially since the Foreskins get the ball to start the second half.  Nothing has gone right, they are backed up on their own 12, there is :12 left in the half, and all they have to do is get off the field and regroup because nothing good is going to happen in that situation.  Instead, they call a stupid play that will do nothing other than maybe pad the stats, and Theismann just lofts a screen pass up that anybody on this board would have intercepted  and run in from about the 5.  Game over.  Yes, they scored to open the second half, but it only cut the lead back to about where it was when they should have run out the clock (they missed the PAT).  Bad decision, absolute failure to read the defense, bad throw and it ended a game they were supposed to win, or at worst, at least be competitive. 

 

The Warner pick was like the Russell Wilson interception, except I don’t think the play call was nearly as dubious.  Both are on the goal line, both short passes, but the Cards play was an out, not an in or slant into the teeth of a goal line defense.  Harrison made a great read, it was a timing play so Warner simply did not read it, and Harrison made a great return (with some help by his friends).  Turning point? Yes.  Choke? Hardly.  The right defense called against the play, a good defensive read, the throw was not a floater like Theismann’s, and the return was 100 yards, not 5. 

 

Incidentally, the only blame I give Wilson for his pick at the goal line was not checking off Bevell’s lousy play call.

 

O’Donnell mad a couple of horrible throws.  But he was not Joe Montana, which is part of the reason the Steelers were 13-1/2 point underdogs.  He was, at best, a mediocre QB whose primary job was to not lose games.  He/they got impatient, and the result was not a surprise.  What keeps this from being one of the biggest choke jobs is 1) he did not throw away a lead, they were coming from behind all game that put him in a situation he was not going to succeed in, and 2) Even with that, the Steelers were far more competitive in this game than everyone expected.  Honestly, O’Donnell aside they were probably pretty equal to the Cowboys by the time the dust settled.  But they walked in with O’Donnell as their QB, it is not like Tom Brady suddenly morphed into Neil O’Donnell.  There is an old saying, when you invite an alligator to dinner, you can’t get upset when it acts like an alligator.  .  Once the Cowboys got ahead and the Steelers decided to “go for it” instead of being a little more patient (and I know it was getting late), O’Donnell became that alligator.  But, in fairness, betting $2 on that in Vegas would have maybe won you $2.25 back.

 

While I have always thought Theismann was one of the most overrated QBs in history (which I think his career stats bear out, he looks generally like #3 of 3 in this discussion), for the seasons in question he is the best of the three QBs.  Highest QBR, best TD-Int ratio, and a good YPG average against the other two considering it was 1983.  He had a career year, right up until the Super Bowl when he played like Joe Theismann.  He always had a problem with interceptions, which did not surface in 1983 until……

I wasn't looking at those SBs as being choke jobs.  I was replying to your comments about horrible interceptions in SBs and those qualify as some of the worst I've seen.

 

In terms of biggest choke jobs in a SB, I'd have to put Atlanta at the top of the list.  They gave up the biggest comeback in SB history by a lot.  All they had to do was manage the clock, kick a FG when they were already in FG range, and more than likely, game over.  NE took advantage of Atlanta's mistakes, so kudos for them but Atlanta had no business losing that game after being up early and often and by a lot.


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Lon (Kansa City, Mo.): I'm a transplanted 'Burgh boy living in Kansas City. My wife was pregnant with my oldest son when the Steelers drafted an undersized former QB from Georgia with their (compensatory) 3rd round round draft pick in 1998. Now, just days ago sitting here with my almost 14-year-old son watching Hines give his retirement speech...couldn't help but think how fast time flies when you're having fun. Thanks Hines for everything! We will miss your tough catches for first downs when we needed them most, your crushing blocks that had linebackers complaining about rough treatment from WRs, and above all, your smile! You're the consummate football player, pro, and thankfully, Steeler for life! Black and Gold forever!

Nick (Cleveland): As a Browns fan, my memories of Hines Ward will always be his [expletive] smile. There were so many times I wish someone on my beloved Browns could slap it off his face, but we never did. Now that he is retired, I can see myself always referring back to that smile. He was one of the greatest complete wide receivers I had the displeaure of watching bury my Browns year after year in his storied career. Glad to see him go out on a high note. Take care Hines! IMO, a sure fire Hall of Famer.




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